Top Ten Auction Sites Other than Ebay!
96Don't Get Stuck In an Ebay Rut!
There is no denying that you can find and sell just about anything on
Ebay. It is the easiest place to start an online business for yourself
but everyday more and more people are taking their selling and buying
adventures to other sites. If you're reading this you're probably aware
of Ebay's high fees are how easy it is for them to just shut you down.
There are more and more horror stories of Ebay just accusing honest
sellers of breaking their 'rules' and in the blink of an eye your
business is shut down without any legitimate reasons. What's worse is
it is virtually impossible to have a real conversation with anyone at
Ebay or get a 'non-generic' answer to your question or argument of
accusation. So where do you go when you feel like your business has
just been ruined and your life has been turned upside down? There are
plenty of up and coming auction sites and a few of them have the real
potential of being the next big thing.
1. Ebid.net - This
site was founded in 1999 and boy has it grown! With 2.4 million
auctions, 9500 categories, $0 listing fees, 5 free photos and is
available in 18 countries.....it is hot on Ebay's tail of auction
sites. Opening a store are free on Ebid AND you can snag your feedback
from Ebay. So, if you are like most of us good hardworking powersellers
and dread the thought of leaving behind your great feedback and
starting from scratch, fear no more....my feedback was imported in about
an hour after I emailed and requested it AND a real person responded to
my email and answered my question and took care of my need immediately.
There's great forums on this site and pretty much from what i can see,
all of the sellers are former Ebay sellers. You can also choose to have
auctions relisted as many times as you like for free too. The only
downside I see is I think there are a lot more sellers then buyers but
the site is growing fast and with more awareness I predict this site
taking over as the auction number one.
2. Ecrater.com - This
site is 100% free! Its extremely easy to build a store and my listings
were showing up in number one and two positions in Google searches within a day of
start up. So far this site according to my 'views' seems to get me the
most audience. It doesn't offer an auction but I just put on all my
listings that reasonable offers are considered with my fixed price so
they can just email me. And did I mention it's %100 free. No listing
fees. No sold fees. Just a great site.
3. Onlineauction.com - Home of the OLA house! Like a store....but its a house instead. Sellers
pay a set fee per week/month/year or life and can list unlimited and
sell unlimited and the fee is small! There is a small additional charge
to open an OLA house but compared to Ebay's fees you can pretty much
open stores and have listings on ten sites for the price of listing and
closing fees on Ebay. This site offers classic, fixed price, dutch,
absolute and sealed auctions, a little something for everyone. Four free
photos are included with each listing as well as free 'relisting' with
anything not sold. This site is definitely fun with the OLA house and
there's a lot of unique things sold here. Definitely one worth checking
out.
4. Ioffer.com - This is a little smaller site and from
what I've seen has an average of around 35,000 users online at a time.
$0 listing fees and a free store here too and here's another site you
can transfer your listings and feedback from Ebay! This small community
has a great 'wanted' section too so if there's something you're looking
for...post it here! ioffer showed my items on Google search fairly
quickly too.
5. Plunderhere.com - This site I would have ranked
as my number 2 option if it wasn't for the simple reason I haven't used
it as long to give it a fair evaluation but from what I've seen it's
right behind ebid.net and definately a better quality site than Ebay.
Again here, you can import your listings from Ebay, ecrater, etsy,
ioffer and a handful of other sites. Its free to join and only $2.50 to
become a verified seller. I love the layout of this site. Its so easy
to use and there's fun auction titles like $10.00 and under etc.
Plunderhere.com is definetely one to put on your list of sites to sell
and buy!
6. Epier.com - Here again....a free storefront for you!
Epier has some really unique stores on it. This site is better for more
original sellers that have something different to sell from the rest.
If you have something not so popular I think it has a real chance here.
It's free so give it a try!
7. Etsy.com -This is a site that
will become my number one or at least my number two eventually when I
start branching off more into selling other items. This could easily be
your number one and only site depending on what you sell. Here is a
site dedicated to all things handmade and designed. Awesome search
options include search by color, handpicked by members, undiscovered,
local, and just listed. If you are a crafty person and are putting in
the time to make something...you will sell it here! If you're a buyer
or a browser, check out this site! There are some amazing, original and
wonderful items on here.
8. Cafepress.com - Now here's your
chance to become a designer, have some fun and make some money. Not so
good if you have something to sell but if you're looking to 'make'
something its perfect. You can design shirts, mousepads,
waterbottles...just about anything. Oh and its free! You design it,
pick the mark up on the product and when it sells...Cafepress.com gets
their price and you get the profit. Try it out! You may discover a
talent you never knew you had.
9. Powersellersunite.com - Not
an auction site but it is a site you want to check out to unite with
other sellers fed up with Ebay. Full of forums and links to helpful
sites to build your business anywhere except Ebay! Loads of helpful
information here.
10. I dont have a favorite for a number ten
site but I do have a handful of other sites. Some of them small but they may
be the perfect place for whatever you're selling. Everyone has their
own niche and a site that's good for me may not be good for you and
vice versa so here's some other sites you may want to check out....
oztion.com, atomicmall.com, yourhighbid.com, hibidder.com,
overstock.com, wagglepop.com, bidtopia.com, buy.com, bidville.com,
cqout.com, theshopswap.com and delcampe.net.
These sites dont even
begin to touch the sites available if your product is books/games/
movies etc! Point being.... don't get stuck in an Ebay rut! There are other
options out there and although sales may not be huge on that site as
first....compared to paying fees with Ebay, you can use several sites
and find the one(s) you love. The more people become aware of other
sites the more they will leave Ebay behind. Sellers are fed up with
being taken for granted and are all uniting to find better ways to
build their future! If everyone spreads the word we will all be making
a lot more money, being treated a lot better, and putting those high
fees behind. Good luck to you!!!
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Great extensive list for sellers who are researching for alternatives! Thank you! We'll definitely check out other sites. Just to add to your list as an update regarding listing on eCRATER, sellers now can also import their listings from eBay too.
I found great information here. As we know EBAY is the leading in auction site. But why we don't try another site for option, But try to search the information first before join to these site. I hope those are legitimate. thanks
Thankls for writing this hub! I am a seller on ebay and have been looking for other, better options. I may give ecrater a shot.
This is a great article giving consumers informative info on the many popular alternative auction sites to sell your merchandise.
This is an excellent hub. I never knew there could be such good alternatives to ebay. I was of the opinion that sites other than ebay or amazon don't have much traffic and we can hardly get any sales. But now I got to explore these options. Thanks for the wonderful lens. I have bookmarked it.
Awesome hub thanks.
Another one not listed is goodforge.com. They're free and look decent even though they seem to be just starting up.
I hate giving Ebay anything. I had nothing but problems with them. I'm sure there are thousands of sellers looking to jump ship because of the horrible customer service and crazy fees. I have some insane horror stories.
Great hub btw.
A marketplace called adflyer.co.uk called me last week so I joined -pretty good!
Personally I have never got into auction sites, rather just affiliate marketing which I think works just aswell since there are so many products out there.
Thanks for sharing though
I'm sick of ebay - they change the rules and just don't tell you. I know cafepress and etsy - and will check out the other sites.
Great hub!
Cool hub, I am sick of ebay. Ten years ago it was fun and people made money. Now it's all about the $$$ for ebay.
I said screw ebay too! Instead of paying hundreds in fees each month I invested it into my own auction website. 9.99 a month unlimited with no FVF under 5,000.00. It's new but it's getting new members everyday worldwide. We work with a google rep so make sure we are seen all over the internet.
Great hub. Thank you for the info. I rated up and will bookmark.
Interesting to know. I haven't heard of any of these sites except for Cafepress because its on Squidoo.
How did Ebay stand out and get so popular?
Thanks so much for sharing. Will check them out. :)
I absolutely detest eBay! They were really an ideal selling platform many years ago...what happen to them. They just started treating their sellers so horrible and Paypal is full of a bunch of criminals....funny they can hold your money yet they can take their fees out. Shameful. You have some great ones listed here. I have had good luck on eCrater! Great hub and very useful information. Rated up for sure!
there's also another new site that has started called c-bay-auction that guaranties to keep cost down for all with free list now
www.icybid.com is now launched!
- NO FEES FOR LISTING AN ITEM
- NO FEES WHEN YOUR ITEM SELLS
- GET CREDIT FOR EACH MEMBER YOU INVITE TO US
- GET CREDIT EACH TIME YOUR INVITED MEMBER LISTS AN AUCTION
- IMPORT YOUR FEEDBACK FROM OTHER AUCTION SITES
- ONLINE CUSTOMER HELP
- 24h CUSTOMER SUPPORT
And there is more to come....
Ebid. . but you have to promo yourself
Great Hub, I was just research to find this list! A ++ - -thanks!
Great hub on many othe auction sites. I find great deals by shopping around.
Great hub! I had not heard of some of these..
This is really useful information, I had heard of ecrater but that was it.
If you are in Australia then i recommend Oztion.
I passed this list on I know people that spend 1000s in fees on ebay monthly, and after reading this I check ed it out and it looks like it may be worth a few listings if nothing else... I am finding alot of useful information on hubpages thanks
Ebay is disgusting. I rank them up there with the Enrons and BP s of the corporate world
Thats right..eBay is just all about money.My last invoice was 114 USD...that is really sick!
I have made only 60 USD profit.They should make changes.When you sell, then youll pay.Aint right?Other thing is...you cant make better prices because of fees.That isick anyhow.
I sell on videogamefans.net I am looking for more information to sell my video game collection online and ebay prices are too much. VideoGameFans offers prices that are way below ebay costs and there are no final value fees. Pretty sweet set up as it looks very similar to ebay.
thanks i'll take some time to join a couple of these
Thanks for this info theherbivorehippi. This is surely a good help for most readers since we will have to know where and what to buy on the net. Thanks! =)
Awesome post - I only knew of a few of these! Thanks for sharing :)
nice information!
Great information. It's nice to see eBay has some competition after how they treat their sellers.
great article. I have some paintings that i made and have some frames for them and I tried to sell on ebay but i'll try etsy.com. Never knew there was a site for handmade crafts. Anyways great stuff here. And thanks! :)
Going to follow
everyone the best place to go and find great products to sell is http://www.pwholesales.net i always buy from these guys trust me you will make more money
I posted info in 'community' on ebay and it was promptly removed. Two websites that I found interesting. auctiondose.com and findtarget.com
auctiondose has all ebay auctions. They are looking for partners. Pondering the possibilities of this site.
ebay was threatened? I'm certainly going to get away from ebay. I'm also very concerned about paypal. Check out paypalsucks.com
Thanks for all the info above. Much appreciated. Packing up and moving on in a few days (from ebay).
WOW, I had no idea there were so many options other than ebay when it comes to auction sites. Thanks for the heads up and great tips on auctions sites. Peace :)
Thank you so much for posting this! My fiance and I recently started our own online boutique, specializing in eco-friendly items made in the USA. We got the business license, resale certificate, etc.. We thought EBAY would be the best start up site for our company. After about 2 months, we were doing amazing! Averaging 20 sales per day (that's huge for us just getting started ;) Well, then ebay puts seller restrictions on us. I called customer service, waited 45min to get a real person. Told him that I'd been an ebay member for about 5 years on a different acct. They didn't care, and would only allow me to post 10 new items per 30 days! I got a little upset with the rep and 15 minutes later my acct was suspended, then my paypal was suspended! I still can't get ebay reinstated, but paypal is back. Almost $1000 was frozen in my paypal with buyers wanting their merchandise, but no way to see any details... NIGHTMARE. They required me to send product invoices where I had purchased wholesale, tax id number, etc. They said it was suspicious that I was selling so much right away. Anyway, I'm thankful to find all of these other sites because of your post. Thank you so very much! Good Luck Sellers ;)
Earthy Regards,
Jeni
I ABSOLUTELY AGREE: e BAY EFFIN SUCKS.
THEY ARE ONLY ON THE BUYER'S SIDE.
ANY WHINEY BUYER CAN DO WHAT THE HELL EVR SHE/HE WANTS, AND YOU'RE LEFT HOLDING THE BAG.
I AM A FIRST-TIME SELLER. I WENT ON EBAY, VERY NAIVE. I MADE THE MISTAKE OF LISTING ONE OF MY EXPENSIVE VINTAGE ITEMS AS A BID(AND AS A BUY NOW). ONE BUYER BID 0.99 CENTS. AND SHE WON----FOR AN ITEM THAT I PAID 69.00 DOLLRAS FOR.
SHE EXPECTED IT IMMEDIATLY.
I WROTE HER AND PROFUSELY APOLOGIZED AND EXPLAINED THAT IT WAS MY FIRST TIME AND I BEGGED FOR HER PATIENCE AND I DID WHATEVER I COULD TO BEND BACKWARDS FOR HER. THE TWERPY BICH IMMEDIATLY WENT AND GAVE ME BAD FEEDBACK---AND SHE HADN'T EVEN PAID YET, SO SHE WAS NOT A BUYER! BUT E BAY PUBLISHED HER FEEDBACK REGARDLESS!
SO I HAD TO GO THRU HELL AND MANY MORE COSTS(MORE THAN THE 70.00 DOLLARS), TO OPEN A NEW ACCOUNT AND DO THE LIDTINGS ALL OVER AGAIN. BUT THEN E BAY FROZE MY ACCOUNT, DEMANDING VERIFICATION IN 48 HOURS. I TRIED TO VERIFY WITHIN 1 HOUR OF THAT DEMAND, BUT THEY'D ALREADY FROZEN MY ACCOUNT!
I CALLED, WAS ON HOLD FOR ALMOST 2 HOURS, THEN GOT DISCONNECTED---AND LEFT OUT IN THE COLD.
I READ YOUR LISTS OF OTHER SITES. I'VE TRIED MONDRO.COM AND LISTED THERE, BUT NOBODY EVER GOES TO THAT SITE. I'LL TRY THE OTHER ONES. THANK YOU.
I DO HOPE THAT EBAY GOES OUT OF BUSINESS---THEY ARE THE WORST!!
BTW: can you PLEASE tell me how the hell to get sucky ebay to respond to me?
It's NOT that I want to be there, but I've already listed, but they froze my account and I have to get it unfrozen.
Every damn time I call the ONLY number, the 866 one, I'm on hold for hours, then I'm told to effin' e mail them.
I e mailed them several times, but they haven't responded---yet they had no problem IMMEDIATLY freezing my account when THEY wanted to!!! I HATE e bay!
I went to the other sites you mentioned, such as ebid, but it kind of looks like a ghost town.
I sell vintage accessoris, so I can't pay a hifh fee, but I also don't want to go on a site that nobody ever visits.
I did try Mondro.com, but that's also another site that nobody really goes to. Please help.
great lists of auction sites..actually in our country eBay have more reputation..but I will definitely check out lists that you mentioned..good wishes to you..
Thanks for a great article. I'm a beginner and appreciate the ebay insights.
I have been reading these comments, because I of course am one of the smaller stores trying to leave ebay. I have noticed alot of complaints about paypal being just as bad as ebay. Paypal is owned by Ebay. Now I luckily have never had any bad luck with paypal and I have 100% feedback with Ebay. But yes there fees have become outrageous. I am just not making any money there.
So I just looked at the ecrater site, and they are paid thru paypal also. Isn't that just crazy that they make all this money by being affiliated with all these sites as well as being owned by Ebay. I think there should be an Ebay strike!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow look at these comments about the eBay! I used to be a seller there also, but they now seem to favor, and cater to, the big business guys, and the at-home seller has been hung out to dry. The new feedback system was the writing on the wall for me, after years of enduring bad changes and increased fees.
I really hope one of these sites becomes the new standard in auction sites. I'd LOVE to get back into online selling. Running auctions is such fun!
I heard about selling on Amazon. I wonder how that's working out for folks.
great info hub, thanks a lot
I love eCrater. It is such a great site. I also sell on bonanza. www.bonanza.com. Check it out..
Oh, thank you, very useful information I got on your hub, nice job :))
Thank you for the list, I will try them due to a horrible experience with ebay. They screwed me over big time and i am not willing to deal with them anymore so thank you very much.
Thanks for the great info. As the owner of www.koalabids.com it is great to see other sites supporting us smaller auction sites.
eBay is trying to get rid of small sellers!!!
I don't know why but people seem to get "stupid sickness"
When they have a great idea and make money!! I owned a highend giftshop at a mall and about halfway through my lease it became apparent that they were running off the local owned shops. The mall looked at it like this. They can push around a manager of a store but I and other owners would rip their asses if they messed with us. So they ran off all the mom and pops and lost all the unique stores. So now they are going out of business (the mall) . eBay was the place to go at first. I made a ton of money off of rare and secondary market items.
Heck I even bought stock in eBay. Now eBay is tring to move out the small seller and create powersellers. Stupid move! So now as a seller there is no recourse when somebody breaks a 500.00 sculpture taking it out of the box and wants me to refund their money. So I guess this is the buisness plan for eBay : remove and reduce small sellers too much work handling there problems. Make it easier for the buyer! So if they run off the diverse sellers with all the wonderful small stuff, they will just have boring crap left over. Great for buying towels and bulk dishwasher pellets. WTF eBay your stupid, greedy, and you will kill your business from the roots up!!!
I love all the post here!
I was thinking before I close my eBay account I might copy this page and list it as the description section of a .99¢ auction with the title eBay is Dead!
Bet I won't have to close my account then!! Ha
I have a ebay store and I am looking for sites with less fees. ebay takes 20% of your gross sales in fees or more, and has a system than does not care about it's sellers at all. There has to be a better site out there to sell on. thanks for the info
Thank you for this great article!
I've been selling on eBay from very near the beginning (various accounts) and have watched and been subjected to the slow dissolution of seller rights especially in their 2008 round of feedback changes which, in our minds, vaporized the level playing field between buyer and seller. Fee's aside it's getting really bad. Over proceduralized would be an understatement.
One point to all the unaware eBay sellers. Tracking! No matter what you do, include tracking/delivery confirmation numbers EACH AND EVERY TIME you send a product to a customer. Build the cost into your shipping if you must, especially for USPS. I can't tell you how many times this has saved our collective hides. It is virtually the last safe recourse for a seller when a buyer goes sour. PayPal will nearly 99.9% of the time return your money when your tracking shows a delivery, irregardless of what the buyer is throwing at them.
Onward:
Having started a new business...again...I really had an itch to sell elsewhere other than eBay so I searched and up pops this awesome summary. So I am off and running with several of the sites now listed here.
BTW eCrater imports from eBay but you have to have at least 50 eBay listings. I only had 28 at his time. But that's ok, imports usually need sprucing up anyway.
One last comment regarding eBay and their fees is that they have a direct and tangible affect on my pricing regarding our displays. I am trying to build a sold and top-quality product and given the tight margin and labor recovery on my builds, eBay forces me to charge at least 10-12% more in price for my product which pushes me to the upper range of consumer comfort. I try to compensate for this by offering free shipping on display orders over $100 but still I am really hoping for a successful eBay alternative for the sole purpose of kicking them to the curb.
Jim
Olympic Holiday Lighting
Thanks for the very valuable information. Alot of people only know about ebay and some of them so it is nice to put all of them in one article for the people to know about them.
If you thought evil-bay was bad as far as their fees before, look at the bomb they dropped on us sellers yesterday: Coming April 19: List Auction-style FREE, any start price, all the time. Add Buy It Now FREE.
Dear tanksbyjoe:
Your upfront cost of selling on eBay is about to be dramatically reduced once again!
Starting April 19, Standard Auction-style fees will be changing. You'll be able to list FREE at any start price--up to 50 items a month. Plus you can add the Buy It Now option FREE to grab those buyers who don't want to wait for your listing to end. In short, you can now list even your higher priced items free--pay only if it sells.
Also, we know online buyers pay attention to shipping costs when deciding what and where to buy. That's why, to encourage low-cost shipping, Final Value Fees for all sellers will be applied to the total amount of the sale, including shipping. Just keep your shipping costs low to get the lowest overall fees.
New eBay Shopping Cart
Online shoppers are accustomed to adding items to a shopping cart--and they're often motivated to buy more. That's why we're introducing the new eBay Shopping Cart that works with both Fixed Price and Auction-style items. Buyers can add items from multiple sellers and pay in one easy checkout--making it easier and more likely for them to buy more. It will become the way to shop on eBay before the 2011 holiday season.
New communications hub
Starting in May, you'll be able to manage your communications with buyers from just one location within My eBay. View the emails that eBay sends to buyers after a transaction, manage your buyer-facing Automated Answers, or access your Store newsletters--all from one convenient page.
Category and item specifics changes
Category and item specifics changes are also consolidated with rest of updates. Find out if your listings are impacted.
Get details on the 2011 Spring Seller Update.
For more insight, you're also invited to:
•Talk with members of my staff during the next two days on a special discussion board we've set up for this purpose.
•Join me and other leaders from eBay in a Town Hall meeting on Wednesday, March 16.
•Take part in the upcoming webinar on Thursday, March 17.
As always, thank you for selling on eBay.
Sincerely,
Dinesh Lathi
Vice President
They seem to think we're so stupid that we don't see that they are putting a fee on the shipping now too, which they are already doing on paypal, so now we get a fee on our shipping twice! They don't even come to my house & do my shipping for me, & now they're making money on it. If you go to the discussion page at e-bay, you'll see how over 2400 people are up in arms about this.
tanksbyjoe
Hi herbivrehippi,
Tell ya what, if you want to see some real e-bay dissension, go to that discussion board at the bottom of that letter from e-bay. Theirs gonna be a mass exodus from e-bay soon. Some sellers are talking about boycotting them for a week. You're right, e-bay used to be fun to sell on. Sellers can't leave bad buyers neg feedback, so we sellers,(who pay all the fees, buyers pay nothing) don't have an equal voice there at all. I'm moving all my auctions to Wensy.com & www.ecrater.com gotta put e-bay in my rear view mirror now. I put that in all my remaining e-bay listings too, lol.
Very good blog, thanks for article.
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I have been unloading lots of old books on eBay for the better part of a year. For the most part, I've been able to take advantage of their seller specials to avoid fees. There is NO WAY I would have kept it up otherwise. I do sell on Etsy, too, but would like to market other items on bid sites. This hub has give me some great options to consider. Thanks!
Good list of auction sites other than eBay here. All the sites you listed though seem like regular auction sites. I'd also mention penny auction sites like Quibids and Beezid, which are a completely different type of auction.
Amazing hub.Every seller should read this! Voted up and useful.
I was just about to list some items to sell on ebay - I am so thrilled to have found your hub in time. The list you have provided, along with great information on each one, is marvelous! I think I will go with Ecrater now. Thanks so much!
I just opened a new Site because i was a ebay powerseller
and i just cauld not take the fees along with the shipping cost.So i decided just to open my own site now i will start to post my items there.Its all Free so if anyone would like to join and post items there you may.
Welcome to Bid Tyrant
Cool. I actually had no idea of what some of the other sites were until I read this. Thanks.
Hi, thanks for this great informative hub. As ebay's fees are going rocket high these days many people are looking for alternative. Small firms that sell their goods on eBay are being squeezed out of business and many don't see any point selling there anymore. I have been trading on ebay for last 4 years and is now looking for alternative online business. Ebay is always changing their selling policy and adding new terms which are causing difficulty to many sellers. Alternative sites are good idea but these sites needs support from online shoppers and traders in order to succeed. One site I know that is doing really well is ioffer.com which is an american site but people from all over the world can trade on there. A lot of chinese sellers are doing really well on there. Thanks.
Wow. I'm almost embarrassed! I have never heard of any of these sites and I always use Ebay! Thanks for opening my eyes!
Thanks for the list. I'm looking to replace ebay since they just added more fees. I'm going to give eBid a try.
WWW.AUCTIONSBUY.COM
- NO FEES FOR LISTING AN ITEM
- NO FEES WHEN YOUR ITEM SELLS
- GET CREDIT FOR EACH MEMBER YOU INVITE TO US
- GET CREDIT EACH TIME YOUR INVITED MEMBER LISTS AN AUCTION
- IMPORT YOUR FEEDBACK FROM OTHER AUCTION SITES
- ONLINE CUSTOMER HELP
- 24h CUSTOMER SUPPORT
I really enjoyed reading your article as well as the thread of comments. I was able to get several cool resources.
All I can say is, dealing with Ebay cost me $700!!! that was a painful mistake I will never forget. I am just glad we were able to voice out our frustrations about E(vil)-Bay.
Good job!
I've been selling on eBay for 8 years, a powerseller and top rated seller. The other week they suspended my account for $40 invoice that wasn't even mine. Took me days to speak with a native english speaking rep, 2 weeks of them investigating an finally re-opened my account, no apology, no compensation, no help.. I hate eBay with a passion. I have a family and overheads and they don't care to help at times when it's most needed. I have an account rep that can't be contacted and speaking to a human is impossible. How is eBay still in business? Go to hell eBay.
I have moved all of my inventory to e-crater and appearing in search results almost immediately. With a little more exposure to the public hopefully buyers will start appearing also quite soon. I cant afford to make the same mistake again (putting all my trust in 1 company) so have also invested in a website to make sure I always have an avenue to sell my quality product.
Thanx for listening to my rant.
Flee eBay!
i have found CQout.com to be a great site,i particularly like securepay, an in house escrow service that as a buyer has saved my bacon on more than one occasion.
we all know that sellers sometimes fudge the details to make the lot sound better and this can lead to disputes between buyer and seller
securepay addresses this problem, if you are not happy, you send the goods back to the seller and CQout gives you your money back.
so you can buy with complete security.
as to listings and making them, the interface is easy, you can use your own templates and colors to personalize your auctions.
i find other auction sites too technical these days and quite daunting .
so i always use CQout first
lets get started
I LOVE YOU.
I AM SICK OF EBAY ALREADY AS A SELLER
THIS ARTICLE IS JUST BRILLIANT.
I agree with all of you about ebay being a monster, they shut me down more times that I care to remember, although my fees were in the hundreds of pounds every month, I used to sell my items like hot cakes and actually make a profit, these days I have my items on 6 different sites and the sales are like a dribble if any. I have been on ebid.net for 1 year and have paid more in fees that make sales, ioffer take the piss, everytime I make a sale they shut my shop until the buyer leaves feedback, its a month since they done that, well do you think a buyer would be confident in leaving feedback if he cant see your store?
I made a few sales on bonanza, addoway, ecrater, none on webstore.
Thanks for reading my rant, but as you all know these sites need traffic in order for us to make any decent sales, alas my ebay venture was a full time job up to last year and with a good revenue, now I have to have a day job and be content with the occasional sale.
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Hello everyone, i have read all the posts here , i can agree with everyone that Ebay has gone down hill in many ways , i have been a seller since 1999 (going on 12 years now) 3000+ 100% feedback and i have never had any of the problems other sellers have had with ebay or paypal, so i have to assume that i have been "lucky" , the only gripe i have with them (and it is a big one) is the fees, ESPECIALLY in this bad economic times we are having, there is no reason for them to have raised them as high as they have, i recently sold some items within the last 6 months and the ebay/paypal cut on average for listing, final fees , and paypal is around 20% ? I remember not that long ago the average for me was about 8% total ! ( i loved it when we had money orders and no paypal!)thats a big difference in a few years, also all these other short lived "bid" sites are NOT a bid site like ebay is, ecrater is not an auction site , the only reason i sell on ebay is because of the auction style selling (not amazon style in a cart !) I always sold my items for more than the set price of other sellers because i would set my auctions at the lowest starting price to get them interested and offer cheap combined shipping (i sell many rare dvd and video games and toys at once) and then sit back and watch the bid wars take place ! i never understood that but it worked every time, so ebay is the only choice for me to sell this way since 1 you have to have lots of interested buyers and 2 a real auction site . I am just like you guys in wishing things on ebay were the way they once were , but until they change or another well known site starts doing auction style bidding i have no choice..... i do like ecrater though for cart style , i will have to look into that, thanks for the heads up !
Very informative Hub. I’ve been fed up with e-bay for quite a while now and looking to go somewhere else. The last straw was when some guy recently left me some false negative feedback because I refused to do business with him after he tried to take advantage of me. Basically he got mad because I wouldn't let him get away with pulling a fast one. Anyway e-bay refused to remove the feedback despite overwhelming evidence that it was purely malicious and untrue. And since I’ve hardly used e-bay this past year, and since they calculate sellers ratings based only on the past 12 months, it really pulled my percentage way down despite that fact that it has been 100% positive for the past 15 years. Some of you other disgruntled e-bayer out there are probably wondering why e-bay consistently make policies that favor the bad guys over the good guys. Well its not because they are stupid, as I used to think. In reality its just pure greed. These policies actually add to their bottom line. One good example of this is thier recent policy (within the past 5 years I think) which prevents sellers from leaving negative feedback for non-paying bidders, or any buyer for that matter. Naturally this has led to an explosion in the amount of non-paying bidders over the years, which, you guessed it, leads to more profit s for e-bay. You see when someone wins an item and does not pay for it that item has to be re-listed and the seller is billed final value fees twice for an item that actually only sold once (you are billed based on money promised rather than on money actually received). And since a certain percentage of people will be too lazy or forgetful to jump through all the hoops necessary to get these fees refunded to them e-bay ends up keeping this money, which adds up to millions in extra profits. Your loss is their gain. Of course you can always submit a “non-payment” complaint to e-bay against the non-paying bidder, which eventually will lead to your fees being automatically refunded to you, but most people don’t want to mess with this long drawn out process. They just want to get their item re-listed as soon as possible so they can get their money. Because of this a person can refuse to pay for five or ten items or more before finally getting a single non-payment strike on his record. And of course a person has to have an incredible amount of these strikes on his record before e-bay will even consider closing his account. In fact as sellers we are only allowed to exclude those buyers with more than two non-payment strikes against them in a month, and more than two strikes in a month could easily equate to 20 or 30 actual non payments in a single month. If you refused to pay even once at a brick and mortar auction house, without a very good reason at least, you would probably be banned for life. At e-bay however it’s apparently more profitable to let these non-paying bidders run amuck and operate with impunity. Of course this causes countless headaches for sellers, not mention lost revenue, but I guess e-bay figures they are so far ahead of the competition that they wont loose any customers over it. Well, all I can say is they are going to be in for a big surprise. I predict that very soon, as other sites get better, there is going to be a mass exodus of e-bay sellers to these other sites and no matter what they do they will never get them back again. Lets hope that day arrives soon.
I noticed a mistake in my previous post. I said that sellers on e-bay could only exclude buyers with more than two non-payment strikes in a month but what I meant to say was two in a year. I still think we should be able to exclude a buyer with even one strike though because as I pointed out this cold actually mean he has not paid many times before getting that strike and as far as I'm concerned there is no excuse for not paying for an item that you have bid on and won. Buyers remorse is not a valid excuse.
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I hate ePAY!!! I will try some of these free sites.
I have used Bonanza (previously called Bonanzle). They have free listings, pictures, etc. Do you have any information about that site? I don't get a lot of action from it.
EBAY ARE CRAP! I JUST LOST MY MONEY BUYING AN ITEM, THE SELLER DIDNT SEND IT, I PUT A CASE IN TO GET MY MONEY BACK AND EBAY BACKED THE SELLER, SO IVE LOST MY MONEY, EBAY CUSTOMER SUPPORT & EBAY CUSTOMER PROTECTION ARE A JOKE!!IVE LEFT EBAY NOW. BEST THING I EVER DID.
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coz im planning to join ebay...but of course before i register myself i did some research and at last i found these ...
thanks guys ... im from New Zealand ...u know some website where i can sell my handmade stuff aside from trademe .. well, i think its better to sell online just around NZ or australia(just close to NZ..
THANKS AGAIN GUYS
I also sell on www.bonanza.com It is not an auction site but more of a fixed price site. Alot of sellers do offer OBO on their items. The community on there is so helpful and nice.
Thank you for your effort bringing this up. there is a new but promising auction site coming up, was wondering if you would consider writing an honest review about it.
thanks
Great stuff! I've got some tv's I need to sell, but not really interested in just posting them on CL. Thanks a ton!
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Was reading and let me tell you that you all are right! ebay is sucks, had to paid big fees and everytime is increasingg the fees, I'm really tired. stop selling and now I'm trying to sell my staff in other places, unfortunately so far is been slow.
hope to race the sells... thanks
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Does anyone have any experience with Webstore (not Amazons webstore) and if things sell three? It is all free and consider very good according to the companies that compare sites to ebay.
Does anyone try www.bidpalace.com
The hell with Ebay! My brother shafted them real good and because I registered the same address as him, they shut me down. 5 years problem free and they shut me down because I live with someone who has a "suspended account". Now, Paypal has $800 of mine held up with them for 6 months! I'm telling as many people as I can to not use Ebay or Paypal because they are crooks and theives!
eBay and PayPal are the worst...PayPay put a lock on my account...I have tried via email to ask why...and they never respond. MY PayPal accct...I had for years...has disappeared. Paypal ignores me. They could careless about their customers. They are too big...government should shut them down.
Wow, thanks so much for the alternatives!
You think you guys had it bad with Ebay? Lol.
Several months ago I had 2 negative feedbacks from one buyer who claimed he never received his 2 items. My BIGGEST mistake was not to include the tracking number on Ebay the day I shipped out the buyers items. The buyer opened a case against me and WON because I did not have the tracking number at the time. THE VERY SAME DAY I found the tracking number and looked it up... IT WAS CONFIRMED THAT IT WAS DELIVERED. What a fricking liar!! I called Ebay support and explained my issue, the rep saw that it was delivered and you know what they told me? They can't re-open a closed case and there is absolutely not one thing they can do about it, except for emailing the buyer to please reimburse me for the $80 that ebay refunded him. Are you kidding me??? That buyer was hella long gone and happy he got two free items AND THE $80 that he got back from me. So I lost my items and $80, yet I have to pay for those item fees. Hell no, I left Ebay so quick, I can't believe they wanted me to pay an item fee that I lost. They couldn't even credit it back to my account! I mean seriously? Now my paypal has -$80.00.
Oh you think that's it? It gets better...
After I thought I was never going to use ebay again, I gave it another shot a couple months later and decided to sell a bulk of items that I had. I created another paypal and ebay account to start over and I was doing AWESOME and selling like crazy, got more than 100 POSITIVE FEEDBACKS within the first month and BAM! EBAY PUNCHES ME RIGHT IN THE FACE AND LIMITED MY ACCOUNT TO 10 ITEMS A MONTH! I don't even know what the hell is going on?! I called Ebay (oh my god, what a mission) and it turns out that my account is now linked with my old account and those 2 NEGATIVE feedbacks from that buyer who lied to ebay was the reason for my old account being limited. Wow, so 8 months later you decide to limit my account? Cool!
You though I was done? It gets better.
After I contacted ebay support and explain how I don't even deserve to have 2 negative feedbacks to begin with (they can't remove feedbacks unless it's violating ebay's policy, so that was pointless), they told me that I have to pay the $80.00 that I owed ebay from my old account in order to reinstate my account back to normal. Yep, the same $80 that was stolen from me. I told them that it was not fair for me to pay $80 that belonged to me in the first place (of course, I was stupid to even waste my time since they obviously can't do anything about that either...) that question costed me 2 weeks of waiting)... so I GAVE UP. I paid the $80 that I owed just so that everything can be back to normal and so that I can sell the remaining of the items I had. After paying my fees I owed, they promised me they will reinstate my account back to normal if I keep my feedback score positive for 60 days.
Finally, this is the best part...
When I thought it was over and I was at peace... exactly 7 days later and BAM! THEY PUNCHED ME AGAIN! Really hard this time. This time they suspended my account and deleted ALL my listings. Oh my god was I angry.
The reason? My performance level was below normal because of 2 negative comments. The exact same 2 negative comments left by that buyer who lied to ebay, won the case, kept my items and my money. So what did I do? Contacted ebay support. No response. I contacted through phone and the rep said they had sent an email to the same rep who promised to reinstate my account after 60 days. Two weeks later (yes, two weeks) I get an automated message saying that my account cannot be reinstated because I cannot be trusted to the ebay community and the case is now closed and my account is now permanently suspended.
At the end of the of the automated suspension message, they had the nerves to tell me to please pay the $220.00 in fees that I owed for the items that I was selling at the time... HAHAHAHAHAHA yeah fricking right. I responded to their message TWICE in my defense. It's been a month and no response.
The aftermatch.
A month later my girlfriend made an account with Ebay to buy items for herself. Two days later she gets a message from ebay saying that her account is associated with my old account and they suspended her account, just like that. She didn't even do anything wrong.
All this because of someone who lied to Ebay and claiming they never received their items.
there's new maret place other than ebay, where we can list for free and cap our final value fees.
It may work well for you too if eBay is taking too much of your profit margin.
swoped.com
Thanks for this very informative info. I have been selling on Ebay since approx. 2006 and am also getting fed up. I sell a bit of everything, but primarily collectibles (vintage and new). Which of these alternatives might be best for this market? And which woud be the best for just general items? Thanks
Awesome hub! I just kept reading these posts and seeing my own story. I started as a seller on Ebay in 2000. It was great back then. I loved to buy as well as sell there. Then they kept going up on their fees so I left. In 2008 I decided to go back and couldn't believe the changes. I was amazed they had changed their feedback system and only allowed the buyer to give negs. It didn't take me long to start getting some really doozy buyers. I like to call three of them, "the buyers from hell." I stayed on the phone with Ebay's customer service for hours and had one woman admit to me that with the new feedback system buyers could literally hold a seller hostage over feedback. I left in 2009 very disgruntled and vowing to never, ever sell there again. I found a site called, yardsellr and joined recently. They don't charge any insertion fees, photos are free, you can leave the item up as long as it takes to sell and they take a small percentage of the amount the item sold for. I've sold three things since starting. I believe that Ebay will evenually die. Great hub. Very informative. Thanks for sharing!!
Hi theherbivorehippi ,
That are the best sites other than ebay .... Great Information about sellers and the consumers .... keep up the good work for more of those ...
Already had few in minds but your list is quite good .... thanks for such a wonderful share .....
Great article. Thanx for the insights about Ecrater. Watch out eCrater and eBid.net, here I come!Been selling items that people gave to me over the years so these items didn't cost me a dime. BUT with the 15-20% fees Ebay/Paypal take from me, I couldn't swing paying $1.00 for these items as my profit margin on most items is only $1.50 to $5.00 on average. I can't afford to go beyond the 50 free items a month due to MORE fees. Between the PO & Ebay/Paypal, I am amazed any of you make money - what incredible spirit I am seeing out there - I am DAMN impressed with the perseverance.
My negative Ebay so far is a rep telling I can't sell needles & syringes together in an ad. Oh. But when I browse ebay I find 150 U.S. ads doing just this. Odd.
Only other thing has been "creepy" people sending me messages about my shipping (who are you the postage police?) Sometimes the shipping is ridiculous due to the items weight but it is only fair to offer the real amount and hope for buyers within your locale (I live on 1 of the extreme coasts of the US). In the last month, my buyers have been real slow in paying. The buyers surfing Ebay are down in numbers from years past, maybe they are going to other auction sites? I am going to give my BUYER business to others like eCrater, eBid and Bonanza - put thy money where thy mouth is right?!!!
eBay sucks. To me as well. that's all right. Somebody tell me with experience. Where to sell sports goods on the web ? I mean which site has the buyers traffic for sports equipment. I deal in both manufacturing, retail and wholesale exports of ALL SPORTS GOODS AND EQUIPMENT. I AM FROM INDIA.
great hub ,,thanks,, I want to start selling staffs which marketplace you will suggest me to start with?
first i am amazed at the article to this top ten list . you literally describes to a 100% t what happen to me yesterday with my ebay account. i was a new seller was doing great for alittle over a week. had over 10 sale all with perfect 100% positive feedback. as of yesterday morning ebay perminitly shut my account down and bared me from ebay for absolutly no reason and when i called them to figure out why they gave me this very generic gerneral explaination that didnt explain to me one bit how they figured that a person with over 10 sells so far and perfect 100% positive feedback with no complaints has done something so wrong according to them that they just without warning shut me out. specially when i had current bids on some more items i had listed and lost all money on those. i have never seen such disrepect for good honest sellers. what getting me even more is the fact that has ebay never heard the term dont bit the hand that feeds you? after all dont they make their money by counting on us seller to list and sell items? you cant make money if you kickin everyone out. i am so disgruntled with that crapy ebay. i sure hope they go bankrupt cause they dont deserve to do business with the way they treat good honest people. death to ebay!!!
If you are into arts and crafts and is a bit creative then Etsy.com is a great site to sell your hand made arts and crafts items. On this site you can sell handmade stuffs as well as anything vintage that is dated before 1993. Also you can sell arts and crafts supplies on there. It's a social media site where you can sell your stuff through social interaction with other users and sellers. Great site so make sure to check it out. Thanks.
Thanks for the very valuable information. Alot of people only know about ebay and some of them so it is nice to put all of them in one article for the people to know about them.
You should try listia. You start off with 500 credits and you can bid on stuff with the credits so it is all FREE yes FREE and half of all the things are free shipping so you should add Listia.Com to the list SIGN UP FOR FREE AT LISTIA.COM
I am so happy that I found this article, in addition to browsing the web in search of other alternatives to selling on ebay. Ebay has become much too expensive to continue to sell on their auction website. The recent and upcoming changes in April and June will have a major impact on how ebay sellers make a living.
I had achieved the Power Seller status more than a month ago, and my seller status was knocked down a level due to the everchanging redundant policies on ebay.
There are alternatives to selling on ebay, and I for one am about to make a drastic change in the way I conduct my business, in addition to my writing life. Great post!
Great article. :)
Have been on Ebay for ~10 years mostly buying and once in a while selling my stuff to upgrade them..
I just found your article today because found really annoying the fees when selling, so if my intention is to sell 1, 2 no expensive items a month which of those options would be ok for a seller like me?...I already read the whole article and replies but is not clear which one would be the best option for my needs..I mean, I can surf most f them for buying but which one for selling ? regards!
Thank you so much for this hub herbivorehippi. Ebay is rapidly losing its luster with me, especially after they allowed a buyer to post an Opinion of me and a lie, which I have disputed and can provide proof in my defense, but to no avail. Not a single feedback from my emails to them.
To much automation, not enough human service, and absurd fees!
BTW, I did vote your hub up, awesome and useful.
Thanks again for pointing me away from eBad, er, I mean eBay.
I hear Ebay being sued for discrimination. I hear there are lots of audio tapes. Inside dirt! ;)
thanks i tried tophatter & did TWICE AS BETTER THAN EBAY !
I had a few negative feedbacks out of 1600 positive ones and they SHUT ME DOWN this week saying I am not up to their standards?? All while allowing me to sell other items at the same time? What the F?? I am officially done with them.
It was great but now they suck.
Well if you didn't know paypal is owned and ran by ebay, but of course they wouldn't tell you that and act like it's 2 seperate companies. If you get a neg feedback on ebay, you can kiss your paypal account goodbye. Anything related to your paypal account when they freezes it, your journey with ebay and paypal ends. You can try to create another account but it will eventually get shut down because you can't hide your name or address from them.
I started using shopsellonline.com – they are fairly new but have already sold some items which is great! What I love is the fact that you can leave negative feedback for bad buyers! Tops for me!!
Is it really true that negative feebacks left on ebay can cause Paypal to close your account?
I've never heard that before.
does anyone know?
I have given up on Ebay and had moved on to some other sites which i find really useful. My favorite one is webstore and is currently as #2 best online auction website after ebay! The best part is no seller's fees!!!!! Love it so far and my sales are growing week by week..
Thank you so much for posting this. I am so passed the point of being fed up with eBay, their fees, customer service and the fact that buyers get away with everything and the seller ends up paying every time. Im very interested to learn more about the first one you mentioned. How do the fees work when you sell something and exactly how do you go about getting your feedback transferred? Thank you in advance.
Thanks for the info. Didn't know that Ebid.net even existed. Too close to the name, eBay. And they should figure out a way to advertise more since the online community is ready to make a switch, IMO.











































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Divamommy 2 years ago
Good information...Great hub